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    Posted: 17-diciembre-2012 at 11:29am
I do not speak spanish, but I don't know where to go for help, so I thought I'd try this forum.
 
 
Here are the videos:
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=XkeoTt2faMc
 
I rode him in the riding arena today in a snaffle bit. He was REALLY good. Calm, relaxed, soft in the bridle... but I couldn't get him to gait. He trots. He is like 10 yrs old and obviously never trained to properly gait.

It's a broken diagonal trot. I did all I could think of to get him to gait correctly, but I don't think he ever did. I have no idea what I'm doing! 
 
I tried circles, rollbacks, half halts, etc... as a trainer suggested, but I'm riding him like he's a Quarter Horse. It's obviously not helping him want to go into the correct gait. 

 I'm a beginner Paso Fino owner.
 


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Hello and welcome to Paso Fino Forum,

Let me ask you some simple questions about your horse:

1. What breed is your horse?
2. If you know what breed he/she is; what the pedigree looks like?
3. How old is your horse?

Let's start with that and I hope we'll get some answers for you.










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Thank you. I greatly appreciate it.
He is a PFHA registered Paso Fino Gelding.
He is 9yrs old.
Here is a link to his pedigree: http://www.pasofinodata.com/Details.aspx?HorseID=53411
 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Denisse Cancel Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-diciembre-2012 at 1:39am
Welcome to the forum, we will try and offer as much help as we can, from your horses pedigree we can see that he has Puertorican, Colombian and Cuban ancestry.
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The diversity in bloodlines, as mentioned by Denisse, may present a problem. The reason for that is because the Colombian bloodlines will not provide a clear gait since their gait tendencies are diagonally. 
 
The PURE Puerto Rican bloodline is a true gaited horse since the first day they are born. That fact has been witnessed by any Pure Puerto Rican Paso Fino breeder, including me. That doesn't mean that your horse can't gait, it means that if he has the tendencies of his Colombian ancestors more than his Puerto Rican bloodlines it will be VERY challenging for an amateur to make the horse gait constantly.
 
A professional trainer will get him in gait, but that's an investment you may not want to do because in the final analysis you want to enjoy your horse yourself. Another aspect you have to think is that if he has the tendency to go into a diagonal gait, it will require constant training to bring him into gait, thus more $$$ Confused
 
On the other hand with a Pure Puerto Rican Paso Fino horse you will not have to invest in a a professional trainer to make him gait, since that is their natural gait. You may have to invest in a professional trainer only if you want to polish his skills and get him to perform at a higher level, but that would be your choice.
 
I hope more people here in the forum will provide more help in what you can do to have him in gait.
 
 
 
 




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I have located a couple trainers within 2 hours from me and am considering some lessons on a completely trained paso. I'm not going to send him to a trainer bc he is simply a trail horse. If he never gets it right, it's not a big deal. It's just a little disappointing to me that I bought a paso who doesn't have that correct super smooth gait :/

Here is a video of what he's doing:
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welcome circle c first i saw your videos and your horse has a nice trot to start with very good first  you should look to strecht her top line with a lowerd posture her poll should be in line with her withers and try to use her trot in favor for you  try circles , serpintine,half halt and side pass to help break  into gait if she raises her head it will make it more difficult to break into gait she needs to have impulsion   and desire to work at all times foward   use your long line to help too and look to flex her body, poll  and neck  and  i think you should use a good saddle to work with to give her your leg aids and be  paciente with her  it lots of work but you can work her your self and at the same time injoy her in her progress good luck with your training session it's a little bit of work but you can learn how to, also go and see your trainers work there horse and get an idea of how it is done and ask if you need to  GOOD LUCKThumbs Up
 remember this is my opinion in what i look for in my horse to gait
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Infantero Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21-diciembre-2012 at 4:45am
Esto es el ejemplo vivo de un caballista y buen ser humano...dispuesto a ayudar con su conocimiento a el projimo, sin pedir nada a cambio.
Le felicito y lo aplaudo, definitivament necesitamos mas personas como usted no solo aqui, sino en el mundo, ah y quiero anadir que ni hizo mencion de las lineas de la yegua, no por decir que se le haya negado ayuda a esta persona aqui, pero a veces se siente el menosprecio a animales no Puros.
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I wish I coil understand the above post. Could someone translate that for me?
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This is the living example of a horseman and good human being ... willing to help with their knowledge to the neighbor, asking nothing in return.
I congratulate and applaud, definitivament need more people like you not only here, but in the world, oh and did I add that no mention of the mare lines, not to say that aid has been denied this person here, but sometimes feels contempt for non pure puertirrican horses .
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